On 05/17/2010 12:02 AM, William "Chops" Westfield wrote: > > On May 16, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Neil Cherry wrote: > >>> You should be fine. I've had people complain that the cisco RJ45 >>> pinout that we designed ended up putting inappropriate signals on >> >> Cough*DEC*cough ;-) > > DEC's standard didn't have enough pins, and used weird un-obtainium > offset RJ plugs. Yes that stupid offset drove me nuts. I though I had DEC terminal servers with all 8 setup in the same manner that Cisco uses? Oh well, won't be the first time I've been wrong (won't be the last ;-). >> I have several terminal servers that I use with lots of equipment >> (mainly Cisco but my terminal servers are Xyplex). We've extended >> the Cisco roll-0ver cables for about 100 feet with out problems >> at 9600. > > Yes; rs232 is very forgiving. In theory, the cisco pinout allows you > to swap DTE/DCE by switching from a rollover to straight-through > cable, which I've always liked. It's other feature is that the > "usefulness" of signals diminishes as you move outward from center. > Use the center 4 pins for a 3-wire serial connect, 6 pins to add "hw > flow control", and all 8 if you want modem control as well. Yes, very useful. Many of the other vendors have taken to follow in step. Simplifies my lfe when it come to cables. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist