As a side note, since OP was asking for a "no-powered" solution, I wanted to talk about my case - which thing I was going to do soon :) and telepathically I got anticipated! I placed 3 circles of wire, 2mt diameter, of 4mm wire below the surface of the entrance of my garage; I planned (not using them yet) to detect presence of a car. My idea was to use the old "dip" method i.e. putting into the wire a 100KHz - 1MHz frequency and look at its resulting height (once tuned) and, when its amplitude lowers, then a metallic-mass "should" be there... -- Ciao, Dario -- Cyberdyne -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist