Wouter van Ooijen wrote: >> Only a few poorly written games and a poorly written OS, for consumer >> workstation/laptop needs more than 512M >> > > Maybe one app needs only 0.5G, but for typical work I USE > - eagle, possibly multiple copies > - at least one IDE, sometimes two (PC and embedded) > - a browser, with lot of tabs and/or windows > - pdf viewer, idem > - sometimes a virtual machine, I'd love to have a few open for comparison! > - my administration, which is probably poorly written because it keeps > everything in memory > > The last two are real memory hogs. I don't care about 32 or 64 bit, but > I would love some more GB's! > > A virtual machine doubles your memory need. We tried running Linux and Windows using VM on our home server. It was easier and needed 1G less ram to run php, Apache and MySQL as native window versions along side on different IP or ports on same netcard and actual Windows OS, with IIS & MS-SQL which we need also. I confess I only have two copies Eagle open a short while to cut & paste. I work normally with just one. But even 1Tbyte RAM doesn't "need" a 64bit CPU. It's about architecture and most 64Bit laptops can only address 3Gbyte for OS & Apps of 4G RAM. 32bit NT 4.0 enterprise can address more than 4G on suitable MBs and XP pro 32bit can actually easily address 2G per application and can use 3G. A 64bit x64 Intel will use MORE RAM to run the same apps in 64bit versions too. I had 512M from 2002 to 2009 in my laptop and then added 256M. I can't do schematics or programs any faster, nor any faster on 4G Core Duo my son has. His PC plays HD better and more modern games than my AMD64 2400, but that's because of his rather expensive, much newer graphics card. x64 was started byt AMD marketing and adopted by intel as no-one loved their 64bit Itanium. In 1997 though there was 64bit NT4.0 for DEC Alpha64, it didn't sell well. Where is DEC now? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist