One other big problem with the watchdog that makes me cringe is when people use it to solve problems they don't understand. It becomes a crutch, and they'll say, "Well, we haven't figured out the issue, but the watchdog catches it in time, and according to testing we still meet the project requirements, so..." But it's a tool, and like a hammer it can be used appropriately or inappropriately. -Adam -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist