Thank you, Now I can (hopefully) avoid RTFM's and look less a sponge. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Byron Jeff wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 08:22:26PM -0400, Jason White wrote: > > Another Question , why when I post do I get so much flak ! All I want > are > > few pointers and I get yelled at for not reading the data sheet (that I > read > > ...) > > Since you asked... > > Every post, especially the ones in the PIC thread goes out to 2000 pretty > smart people. People who are well aware that the answers to many of these > questions are either easy to find or common sense. As such some feel as if > you are wasting both time and bandwidth asking them and are politely (and > sometimes not so politely) telling you so. It would be exactly the same as > my going on a Python list you inhabit and ask how to create a list. The > answer is both obvious and easily found. > > If you are really interested in understanding how to function effectively > in such environments, take a read of the piece "How to Ask Questions the > Smart Way." by Eric Raymond. You can find it here: > > http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > I do hope that this helps you. There is a wealth of information available > here. But many of the list inhabitants help those who help themselves. > > BTW another faux pas you made was take a PIC thread as you started, and > changing the topic to something not PIC related without changing the > subject to [OT]. I took the liberty of doing so in my reply. > > BAJ > > > > > On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Mike Hagen > wrote: > > > > > On 5/8/2010 2:01 AM, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > > > > On 2010-05-08 07:21, Jason White wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello , recently I have been looking for better pics to > > > > > expand to. I found one, it looks great... > > > > > PIC : PIC18F452 > > > > > > > > No, it doesn look great. It's an old device not recomended > > > > for anyone anymore. The product page at Microchip says > > > > "Please consider this device: PIC18F4520". You should > > > > follow that advice, or use some even newer device. > > > > > > > > > but there's one problem: it has no internal oscillator... > > > > > > > > So just don't use it. Use a modern processor. > > > > > > > > > what would happen if I put a 200MHz oscillator in... > > > > > > > > Probably nothing at all. > > > > > > > I bought a little Smart Car, what happens if I put a Corvette Engine in > > > it? :-) > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > > View/change your membership options at > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jason White - Python and C++ Programmer > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- Jason White - Python and C++ Programmer -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist