On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Matias Vidoni wrote: > I think that the way Steve is going is right. And right with what he says > about iPhone with no flash: > "You want porn in your mobile, then buy an android" > That's in fact what everybody needs to do, if you don't like iPhone because > of lack of some software, hardware > feature you want, then buy something that have them. > Having working in the computer security industry for very long time, I think I have an overview on this subject. What I and everybody in this industry had to learn through the decade is that this kind of attitude is a sign of short sight and leads to serious security problems. Someone who owns and leads a big company does not necessarily means he is a security expert. The problem is not only with SWF nor PDF files, but with the fact that these are so popular that is installed virutually on every singe PC and other devices. Therefore if a blackhat person would like to deliver a malicious code into my computer, he/she has much better chance than with anything else (simple because the chance that I have Flash and PDF reader is quite high). If you search for filetype:PDF for example on Google, it will show more than 280 million files. Just as a comparison, if you do that with filetype:SWF shows more than 80 millions while filetype:DOC will get 'only' 30 million... I analyse HTML pages as well, and that is just as bad as anything else. We have hundreds of new sites infected everyday -- they use only malicious Java scripts, iFrames, redirections and blackhat SEO attacks. These are not connected to Flash at all... Drive by download is bigger hit, and for that HTML5 will be no better than HTML4 or XHTML. Now if we analyse the operating system iPhone use, it is based on the same Darwin engine, which also used on Mac. If you search for Vulnerability or malware on Mac, you will find quite a few problems. Actually it is quite easy to bypass security features on Mac. The only reason we see much more problems on Windows is that (again) it is so much popular than anything else. When someone is saying something like that: "You want porn in your mobile, then buy an android", then I do not know if I shall laugh or cry. If Mr Jobs would say "Look, we will not allow Flash as it would take down our revenue", then I would still was not like the decision, but at least he would have been honest instead of stupid. Thanks, Tamas > My little point of view. > Thank you > Matias > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Xiaofan Chen wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Tamas Rudnai > > wrote: > > > With iPhone, most guys I know use jail broken devices -- therefore they > > can > > > run non-approved apps on it. Why is that so good for Apple, I am not > > sure? > > > > > > > That seems to be the case here as well. But Apple sells the hardware > > to the Mobile Phone Operators at a decent profit. So they do not really > > lose > > money by selling more iPhones. > > > > -- > > Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > -- > Matias Vidoni > eMail: matiasvidoni@mvcom.com.ar > MSN Messenger: matiasvidoni@mvcom.com.ar > Skype: matiasvidoni > WWW: http://www.matiasvidoni.com.ar > Google Talk: matiasvidoni@gmail.com > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- int main() { char *a,*s,*q; printf(s="int main() { char *a,*s,*q; printf(s=%s%s%s, q=%s%s%s%s,s,q,q,a=%s%s%s%s,q,q,q,a,a,q); }", q="\"",s,q,q,a="\\",q,q,q,a,a,q); } -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist