Russell McMahon wrote: >> I know this is a kind of RTFM which was prohibited in this list recently for >> some reason, but I hope we can make an exception. >> > > I know that comment has already been overtaken by events, but it's > worth a reply. > The SPIRIT of suggesting that someone read the available literature is > not at all prohibited. What Jason needs, as I'm sure he has come to > appreciate, is some high quality training input. Finding it, and being > guided through the morass of surrounding material is something where > provision of quality guidance is useful. What started out appearing to > be an Ohm's law question was in fact only very vaguely related to > Ohm's law, but more related to how power supplies and processors work > together. > > What the rules suggest people keep for use amongst themselves is RTFM > as an actual term. As already long and boringly explained, in 'the > heat of battle' this actual term often serves to produce ill feeling > and bad responses totally out of keeping and magnitude with the > situation. Trying to avoid sudden promotion of flame-war type > situations was the aim. Anytime you can suggest that a manual (or > document etc) needs reading AND even better, propose a manual or group > that relate AND even better, if possible perhaps give a beginner a > guide as to what they want to look for and even better maybe even > where it may be found IF the document is large and > beginner-unfriendly, THEN the spirit of the original invocation is > well served, while the inflammatory bits have been excised. > > Summary: > Genuine guidance aimed at. > Potential for appearance of pointless abuse best avoided. > > > Russell > For straight basic electronics, try these http://www.tpub.com/neets/book1/chapter3/1-3.htm These start rather basic, but seems that is what is needed here. And they do work! Its about the same course work I had when I went through USAF electronics fundamentals years back. Book, breadboard, and VOM, and off the the races. Jim -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist