Electron wrote: > At 00.33 2010.04.26, you wrote: > = >> UK records >> =95 1.3GHz 2617km >> =95 2.3GHz 1083km >> =95 3.4GHz 980km >> =95 5.7GHz 1244km >> =95 10GHz 1275km >> =95 24GHz 391km >> =95 47GHz 203km >> =95 76GHz 79.6km >> =95 134GHz 17.7km >> =95 145GHz 1.29km >> = > > Looks like the higher the frequency, the lower the range.. why? > > Is it a limit of physics or just of technology? > > = Both. Nowadays, more Atmospheric issues. Look at dates. Moisture and dust and even just oxygen, C02, Nitrogen all become more a = problem at higher frequencies. Sunsets are Red and Sky is Blue. Look at how often a hill only 15km distance is really clear and sharp. At 10GHz you can use a regular silicon transistor colpits oscillator, = even hand made on stripboard / vero board using a 6GHz FT transistor = that runs at 3.3GHz. It's about 1.5cm x 1.5cm and built on trackside = with track as inductor tuned by a varicap. Copper foil and lots of earth = links on "top" side of board. A special mixer diode triples to 10GHz. LNBs (sat receivers) use a DRO (Probabily a YIG puck) in a cavity at = 12GHz or so. You can actually sand or file the puck to change the = frequency. If it comes loose, (LNB or other DRO based osc "dropped") = sticking it back on PCB with a dot of "super glue" amazingly works. I've = changed frequency of "printed" stripline filters at 10 .. 12GHz by = silver pen and craft knife. There is a lot you can do if you have an old HP 141T 18GHz spectrum = analyser (a 48GHz or so adaptor is available, but I've never used it) to = look and see what is happening. Cheap surface mount components really = can be soldered on track side of vero/stripboard with a piece of coax = copper foil as as "ground plane". Knowledge of microwave layout and = gazillions of earth links (every unused hole practically). Loads of free = stripline CAD/CAE tools . Above 24GHz it's harder to get stability, and power. Receivers are = poorer too. Even if 47GHz gear was cheap, in Atmosphere it's going to be always = short range. -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist