Mario wrote >Xiaofan Chen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:50 AM, RANDY ABERNATHY > wrote: > >> Try the following link for GNU >> >> www.gnupic.dds.nl >> >> I think you will find that is the newer URL for GNU. >> > I think that is really old information and most of them outdated > (last updated seems to be in year 2002). > > > Unless you are building 1000s and also need less than 18 pins use an 18F series do check the microchip site. A lot of parts in Web articles are very obsolete and projects can easily be done on newer pin compatible parts. the 10, 12, and 16 have about 10 members each in pin sizes less than 18 pins if you want small. the dspPIC, 24F are different family. the PIC32 is really a MIPS core. Personally, if an 18F isn't powerful enough or enough Flash, etc, I'd use an ARM Cortex M1, M3 at low end and bigger A8 or Cortex A series with enough Flash & RAM for Linux at higher end. ARM starts at about $4 Check out JAL, Free, Open Source on Linux & Windows http://code.google.com/p/jallib/ I've compared JAL to Hitech C, Boost C, Mikroe C and for PIC, certainly 10, 12, 16 it's better. Supported devices here http://code.google.com/p/jallib/source/browse/#svn/trunk/include/device (343!) http://justanotherlanguage.org/content/jaluino http://jallib.blogspot.com/ http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/jallist/ http://groups.google.co.in/group/jaledit http://code.google.com/p/jallib/ Current Developer of jal is Kyle Quote: JALv2 is a rewrite of Wouter van Ooijen's famous Just Another Language. More JAL bits and libraries can be found: jallib -- libraries for everything http://code.google.com/p/jallib/ Rob Hamerling's Homepage for all Microchip device files http://www.robh.nl/ Single Multiple with Constant Calculator http://www.casadeyork.com/jalv2/cmul.cgi Original JAL voti.nl/jal/index_1.html Stef's PIC Pages http://pic.flappie.nl Wattystuff (I post stuff on Techtir and jallib at google now) http://www.wattystuff.net/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=PIC+Micro Bert van Dam Pages http://members.home.nl/b.vandam/ Yahoo Group http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/jallist http://www.robh.nl/picsoft.php Good, if somewhat out of date overview of PIC http://www.voti.nl/swp/index_1.html Really seriously consider PicKit 2 (under $30) or Pickit3, else there will be PICs you can't program. Some stuff on my site too http://www.techtir.ie/node/1003280 http://www.techtir.ie/articles/software PIC projects http://www.techtir.ie/construction DIY programmer (not recommended anymore, get a PicKit2) http://www.techtir.ie/node/1001751 On this project http://www.techtir.ie/node/1003355 http://www.techtir.ie/node/1003375 I started with 16F877, switched to pin compatible 18F4550 and added USB, just with a header change in the JAL code and now I will do next prototype with SM TQFP 64pin 18F67J50, 128K Flash, as I have run out of memory on the 32K Flash 18F4550. All my existing JAL code and perpherials will work. Eagle has most of the parts libraries inc 18F67J50 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist