On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Alexandros Nipirakis wrote: > I suppose the only final comment is to point out that many people find > the senseless destruction of things to be abhorable. =A0I am one of > these people. =A0The thing was produced by someone and does in it have > the original person's labor. =A0It represents human time in its design > and manufacture. =A0Therefore, people should respect that someone > created the things they have, have taken pride in their work and > therefore the product should be respected as such. Interesting! I suppose it follows, then, that the payment for the product was only part of the responsibility the purchaser owes to the creator of the object? What, then, do you think of one birthday activity I had many years ago: 1. Spread out a large tarp on the lawn. 2. Place old computer equipment on tarp (some worked, some didn't mostly valueless) 3. Don suitable safety equipment (glasses are a must, gloves, long sleeve shirts, and full pants good) 4. Pass around a baseball bat and let people enjoy the entertainment of applying large mechanical transient forces to the old computer equipment Aside from the shear joy of destruction, there was lots of education to be had - but let's dismiss the possible educational aspects of this and discuss the point: Was this activity abhorrent to you, given that it differs from the iPad incident by only a few particulars? If not, what particulars make the difference, and what is that difference? If so, what is the proper "retirement" for objects that people put their time and labor into so we can show proper "respect" for that labor when the object no longer has practical use? In 30 years when a given iPad is literally useless, does one still have a responsibility to the creator of the iPad to treat it with suitable respect, or does that responsibility have a time limit? -- = http://chiphacker.com/ - EE Q&A site -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist