I also resemble that... ;) hence the Q. A post long ago of mine on USB power was directly related to those slim black box drives. A 250GB (WD) would have trouble on many of the ports around here. Putting it inside a laptop seemed to work, except it would have errors on spin up if not spinning. Either a speed or power issue I suppose. The solution was to not let it shut off. Replaced with a Hitachi 500GB and all is well again. Not the first USB-powered drive to suck too much power (or something)... That onerous WD drive is now in the collection for the desktop hot-swap bare base and works fine there. I'm also trying to retire a whole stack of odd LARGE black boxes with dedicated wall warts... The future problem is in keeping these things safe. So far, the bare drive method is the most convenient - drop in a drive in the slot and 2TB is there. Need another? Pop it out and another in - no wall wart swapping (which supply goes to that one now???) or rows of simulated plastic 'books' on the desk - and no swapping USB cables in and out and tracing to whichever drive it goes to. On 3/29/2010 4:58 AM, Russell McMahon wrote: > I resemble that. Quick look in office, Hmm, 18 bare drives. Some few > dead and hoping for future resurrection, a few IDE PATA, most SATA. > Pop in cage on desktop. Sizes range from 500 GB down. The few 1TB and > 1.5TB are in PC or USB cases. > > Where I want an external USB drive I've taken to buying "name brand" > USB2 black bricks that come in the disk manufacturer's bade engineered > case with their psu and their drive. Often no dearer than mix and > match do-you-know-where-your-USB2-drive-controller-came-from > alternatives. Segate is the most non-user-interactive device I've ever > seen. No manual (there is a multilanguage sheet but it has NO useful > information - and it's not needed. There is a connection diagram. No > fan. Hardly gets warm. No on/off switch. No install software. Plug it > in 1st time and it doesn't even do the usual found this found that > installing xxx - just spins up for a few secinds and then PC announces > that dive has been installed. Painless and seamless so far (6 > months?). WD1.5 TB almost as transparent. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist