Bcc's: Rod should see unicycle - may even inspire him. Any other Bccs copies coz I think you may like it. > Very cool stuff. I'm going to take a stab at a balancing robot, I think. For maximum cheating and 2nd fastest path to success, use BIG wheels, battery pack heavier than the rest of the swinging weight and mount the battery pack low and below the axle. Has the advantage of taking "minimal" energy to self balance :-). For fastest path to success, the following may inform your decision making process: Meta 2 wheels ride-on self-balancing open source Segway imitator Even has a video of Linus Torvalds riding it :-) AVR based. http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/meta/ http://www.gizmag.com/diy-segway/10939/ Based on Trevor Blackwell's impressive design (and code) http://www.tlb.org/scooter.html TB's self balancing unicycle http://www.tlb.org/eunicycle.html Others, less complete and/or impressive. http://www.segwii.com/ http://www.mtoussaint.de/tobb/index.html Somewhere en-web I've seen an inline self balancing two wheeler. Shifts its battery packs to maintain side-to-side balance :-) Russell > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist