I've spent hours now pouring over the Microchip.com site and looking at all the options, but I'll be darned if I can find a list of the devices compatible for programming or for debugging with the PICKit 3. Specifically, I want to find out which uC's are supported for ICD and which require an adapter. The ultimate goal is to find a good range of uC that can all be debugged in circuit with the cheapest possible setup and are pin compatible so one kit board can be populated with a uC cost and code space appropriate for the many different jobs the board can support. E.g. a very low end uC can replace a basic 555 pulse generator for testing stepper motors with switches for "faster", "slower", "start/stop", and "axis/dir" where a much higher end uC would be needed with the same switches to support multi-axis, multi-waypoint, position programming with speed ramping and position change triggering. In that later case the same buttons would be "axis/dir", "step/ramp", "save/next", and "prog/run" or more likely, setup from a PC. The kit board will support a range of activities including whatever you might imagine could be done with a small LCD panel, switches, low resolution analog inputs (temp, voltage, high side current, etc...), serial/USB/RF io to a PC (possible opto-isolation), pulse generation and measurement, stepper driver breakout, etc... It will replace 3 different PCB's I currently sell and add a number of new possibilities at the same time. One of those possibilities is to sell it as an educational kit for use with the PICKit or other low cost debugger, and for that, I need to know which chips can be supported by the debugger at the lowest possible cost. And so I need to know which are supported without an adapter, and that... I can't seem to find. --- James Newton 1-970-462-7764 mailto:jamesnewton@massmind.org http://www.massmind.org/member/JMN-EFP-786 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist