The closer it is to the opposite polarity or ground (the floor in this case= I = guess), the higher the field strength on the tip of the carbon fibres becom= es = and the lower the actual corona discharge voltage becomes. Another option might be to use an active device. I have seen a couple of = chinese small, rather chaep, piezo based dischargers and, a bit depending o= n = how big the charge on the robot is and how fast it is generated, the result= ing = voltage on the robot could be well below 100V. These devices are usually us= ed = together with a fan in order to discharge a larger surface, like a workbenc= h = when working with electronics assembly. They are also used in air nozzles t= o = reduce any charge buildup when blowing with compressed air. A new thing I have not seen before is USB ionizers. A small USB powered ion= izer = that looks like a thumbdrive. They only seem to produce negative ions thoug= h = (probably just rectified the output). /Ruben > Well, I did actually try both antistatic garland and a few simple > needles and they made very little difference below 3kV. I had not > heard of this carbon fiber brush but I will look into it. I find it > hard to believe that it is going to be able to reduce the corona > threshold to below 1kV (which we would need), but I will look. > = > Thanks, > = > Sean > = > = > 2010/3/25 Ruben J=F6nsson : > >> > >> Alternately, coat the machine with needles pointing outwards and let > >> the static dissipate through air discharge. ;-D > >> > > > > This was my thought also. Perhaps you can use carbon fibre antistatic b= rushes, > > like this: at suitable p= laces on > > the robot. Note that the brush should not touch the ground. > > > > Normally these brushes are connected to ground potential and located cl= ose to a > > charged surface. Since the carbon fibres are so thin, the field strengt= h around > > them becomes high enough to ionize the air through corona discharges lo= ng > > before the breakdown voltage in air is reached (which would cause a spa= rk > > instead). > > > > /Ruben > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Ruben J=F6nsson > > AB Liros Electronic > > Box 9124, 200 39 Malm=F6, Sweden > > TEL INT +46 40142078 > > FAX INT +46 40947388 > > ruben@pp.sbbs.se > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > = > -- = > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Ruben J=F6nsson AB Liros Electronic Box 9124, 200 39 Malm=F6, Sweden TEL INT +46 40142078 FAX INT +46 40947388 ruben@pp.sbbs.se =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist