> 2. ICSP: good idea, I know that, but the hardware is ready since months and > no pins left, pity. Nobody was able to foresee so many changes, 24 > meanwhile...and no end in sight.... 1. DIP clip 2. small PCB with the PIC, and pin-header for ICSP 3. ex-circuit programming: small rig with the programmer and a ZIF. I confess, that's essentially a ps+. -- Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist