Peter Feucht wrote: > 2. ICSP: good idea, I know that, but the hardware is ready since > months and no pins left, pity. Nobody was able to foresee so many > changes, 24 meanwhile...and no end in sight.... Surely you can find something to connect PGC and PGD to that wouldn't interfere with programming? Often a series resistor is all that's needed. Maybe nothing special is needed depending on what the target circuit looks like. I discuss some of the issues in http://www.embedinc.com/picprg/icsp.htm. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist