Wouter, 1. Will have a look at xwisp, thanks for hint. 2. ICSP: good idea, I know that, but the hardware is ready since months and no pins left, pity. Nobody was able to foresee so many changes, 24 meanwhile...and no end in sight.... 3. Bootloader not possible - no program space left. 4. 16F877 was just an example, in fact I use a 16F877A for this application, but it will be replaced by a 887 as soon, as the tests are over. Peter -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] Im Auftrag von Wouter van Ooijen Gesendet: Freitag, 19. M=E4rz 2010 12:18 An: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Betreff: Re: AW: [PIC] Operating PicStart-plus without MPLAB? > Application is NOT for automated programming, but this is an = > interesting item. Would it be possible to program PICs with individual = > serial number or similar? Of course such is possible. For instance, my xwisp application can read a .hex file, alter a specific word, and then write the file back. > To let you know: There is a customer who is making many tests with a = > device of us and therefore we constantly have to send re-programmed = > PICs. So my thought was to give him a PicStart+ and a simple utility = > to let him re-program the PICs by himself, only by sending a new hex = > file to him. I don't want to let him install a complete MPLAB for I = > know, that he will make many "strange things" for he is somewhat technophobic.... A simple in-circuit programmer would be a better idea: pickit2 would be a good candidate: it has both a GUI and a command line application. Or use a bootloader... >> UTILITY -16F877 -MYPROG.HEX the actual command line for xwisp would be: xwisp target 16f877 go myprog.hex Are you seriously using the 16F877? Consider at least the 877A, or better the 887. -- = Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist