Hi, already checked MC website but wasn't successful... I'm looking for a utility to operate the MC PicStart+ programmer WITHOUT starting MPLAB. Has anybody an idea where to search? Or even a link for download? Something accepting a command line like this: UTILITY -16F877 -MYPROG.HEX DOS or WIN is OK. Thanks and best regards Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist