Thanks, all for the input. I decided to go with the LM2687 for the following reasons: * Used it before and I know it works well with analog circuitry. * Reasonably low part count. * Using a port driven charge pump will require output oscillation to sustain the negative voltage. This can be a hassle when debugging, as the oscillator may stop. * I wanted a small negative voltage and most solutions mirror the input voltage. This part let's you generate a regulated -1.2 volts. * Photovoltaic method too exotic for me :-) Mark Skeels Engineer Competition Electronics, Inc. TEL: 815-874-8001 FAX: 815-874-8181 www.competitionelectronics.com Vitaliy wrote: > Spehro Pefhany wrote: > >>>> Sheesh. >>>> >>>> How can that work? >>>> >>> The reverse B-E junction produces light, which illuminates the B-C >>> junction which acts like a photocell. >>> >>> I've tried it on TO-18 case transistors with the metal case cut open, >>> and you can see the light! >>> >> Forgot to mention, you should probably toss the transistor after trying >> this, because zener-ing the B-E junction tends to degrade beta, >> more-or-less permanently. >> > > Fifteen or so years ago I saw a schematic of a "solar" radio which was > powered by a power transistor w/ the lid sawed off. > > This is one thing I love about the PICList. They don't teach this stuff at > school, and I didn't even think about the oscillator to -ve trick, or the > opto trick. :) > > Re: original question.. years ago Russell suggested splitting grounds using > a Schottky. You use the "Schottky" ground as your "normal" tround, and the > "normal" ground (now with a negative offset) for your opamp. > > Vitaliy > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist