Rolf wrote: > As a casual observation, my major motivations for leaving South Africa > were crime and opportunity... For Canada, and Australia, you can get a > feel for each of those by reading up on the news: > > http://www.thestar.com/ <-- the Toronto star - note that there is no > violent crime in the major headlines... > http://www.smh.com.au/ <-- Sydney morning herald - 3 of top 5 stories > are murder (or attempted).... > To put violent crime in perspective in Toronto. The metropolitan area has about 3.5M people. There has for the last few years averaged about one murder a week. The major news story earlier in the year was more people had been killed on the streets jay walking. I live outside of Toronto crime of any sort is low. w.. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist