> I became convinced that you will never 'get it' until you find > yourself on the receiving end (=3D maybe, never). I 'get it' well enough. I've been on the receiving end. I didn't like the feeling at all. It was done irrationally, wasn't because I had broken any rules, was due to somebody thinking I meant things that I wasn't even aware were implied by my comments (and were of no interest to me)(US domestic politics) - and which were so mild had they been intended that they fell well inside any reasonable boundaries. Interestingly, part of my post WAS potentially extremely inflammatory had there been any strongly pro Chinese communist government list members paying attention, but the admin never noticed the allusion and nobody else commented. So I, like enough others*, had done enough to justify significant treatment, but nobody noticed :-).) =A0(* Many of us have our occasional excursions. The large majority go unremarked. Which is as it should be). As a consequence I acted far more like Olin did in the same circumstances than I would have expected. An interesting experience. And the moderation lasted for a significant period for reasons that were unclear to me. So, yes, I can entirely put myself in the few other's shoes who have been in that position. > As long as a set of rules > suits you, you will find ways to rationalize them I'm a bit perplexed as to how "do no harm" has been transformed into seeming to be rampant fascist repression, but it seems to go with the territory, alas. > and even joke about > "eliminating the 0.1%". Just in case you didn't notice, I didn't do that (fwiw) I did the opposite. Somebody asked about the 0.1% and I provided positive examples of real life situations where you'd try and retain such. And a thinly veiled metaphorical reference to a 2000 year old example indicating that every member is equally valuable no matter how large the flock AND that the outliers are singled out for treatment as being specially valuable. (In the original example it was 1:99 but the message was clear that the ratio wasn't the point, but the value of each individual) > It was worth a try. At least now I can see how things are more clearly. Hopefully the above facts will assist the perspective. ie mainly YES I've been on the receiving end of non rule-based moderation and yes I didn't like it and no, I didn't joke about getting rid of the 0.1% - in fact just the opposite. No medals required - just the hope that people may be able to spot a bit of sincerity when they find it ;-). > Sorry for wasting everyone's time. None of it's wasted if the family all end up happy. It's a total waste if we spend this much time trying to honestly accommodate severely disparate views but still find that people are grossly unhappy. > Vitaliy =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Russell -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist