Hi list. This is a message mostly intended for those of you living in that giant island known as Australia, or to anyone else which considers that his thoughts on the matter might worth the hassle of posting back. I live in a beautiful and graceful piece of land in South America called Venezuela. This place is so blessed with natural richness that even the most cold hearted will be marvelled with some of its sights. We have also a huge amounts of underground treasures, mostly oil, gas, iron and aluminum. But we are also suffering from other things that I could gladly discuss off-list with anyone interested to avoid getting into non-piclist-suitable talks as I am already stretching the rope a little bit with this post. So, my family (wife and 18 months old daughter) and I are seriously contemplating emigration. Top candidate countries are the usual suspects: Canada and Australia, as those are the ones which: a) Seem to offer the kind of prospecting life we want for ourselves and for our kid (mostly for her) and b) Seem to have the most immigrant-friendly policies. Canada was our first place of interest as some families, friends and people we know are/were either preparing to go there or already living there. We have been for around five months gathering all the information we can regarding immigration, living and working in Canada. We are pretty much informed that it is very hard, initially and sometimes even forever, to get jobs in the same line of work or areas as the ones we currently have and that it is usual for immigrants to work in a wide range of survival jobs or lowly paid jobs. We know that it is relatively expensive to own a house or even a new car. We know that health services are OK but have found pretty discomfort or "not satisfaction" among immigrants and Canadian citizens. We have found that nurseries (places for taking care of small children - 4 years an less- while their parents work) are hard to find and expensive when living on a low hour rate job. We know that weather is a major actor in the Canadian style of living. We have lots of facts, well, we have as much "facts" as you can get without actually living there. Australia is, in the other hand, a mysterious land for us. We have had trouble to fill in the blanks in the answers to our questions. Most of the info we have is based on the official gov of Australia which, by the way, have very nice sites regarding instructions and info for possible immigrants but they are official sites and we want more "on the ground" stories. Here is where we would appreciate any info from the fellow piclisters with any experience on this matter. Some additional info, I am an Electronics Engineer; 6 years of experience working as a Maintenance Engineer II at one of the biggest hydro electrical complex in the world, mainly doing maintenance, failure diagnosis and repair of power electronic controlled systems (excitation systems for hydro gens, ups, inverters), speed and power electric/electronic regulators for governor systems, synchronization systems. I have had also experience in basic and detail engineering, mainly for governor and excitation systems. I have been in charge of the Maintenance team (we called them "sections") and have been trained in SAP based maintenance strategies. As a hobbyist I have been involved with programming in ASM on some micro controllers (pics, 8051's) but it have not been my "official" job. I am 31. My wife is also an EE, with a couple of years experience in basic and detail engineering in hydro generation automation, has had a couple hiatus for raising our child. Our biggest concerns are regarding: job possibilities and public health and education systems for our daughter. We figure that the possibilities for working in our fields are a little remote as in Canada, and we are going to begin working in some lower paid jobs. That is OK for us as long as there are real possibilities of raising our kid in a safe, modern and tolerant environment. But if there are a possibilities of working as professionals that would be a huge plus. I am aware that every experience is unique to those involved in it but any guidance, info, pointers and/or help will be truly and sincerely appreciated. We are in a break point in our life where we must try to make the best choice as we are not getting any younger and actions must be taken with the important notion that the future of our loved young lad is in our hands. Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for your time and help. Regards, Carlos. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist