> I am new so if you tell me to rtfm please tell me which manual and what > part of it`because that helps a random rtfm indicates you have no clue Not necesarrily. A plain rtfm can be good for instance because - which manual you should read is obvious - the manual is so small you should be able to find it easily - you should read the manual anyway - finding the right place is as much work for the answered as it is for you A good follow-up question to rtfm could be "I read section x.y, which is the place where I expected the answer, but it was not there". For *that* question a plain rtfm is indeed not a good answer. -- Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist