Usually people here refer rtfm to a specific documentation which is the datasheet. Sometimes people refer to google if the answer is very easy to find, like first page on search results... Btw, when i started with pics around 5 years ago i found mikroelektronika's book first, then this list. So i just don't understand how others have difficulty finding a free and popular book like that - i guess that is still on the first or second page. And when we see a newbie not even trying to find the answer or read the documentation that was told to be read so, then usually such an argument is coming like this. Personally i don't think if an rtfm is any bad. Sometimes we just can't find that doc and other people have no time to explain or can't do that better than a well worded book or blog. So why write that down again or keep silent than telling which doc to look for? Tam=E1s On 3/14/10, Ray Warren wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:09:29PM -0500, Olin Lathrop wrote: >> Gaston Gagnon wrote: >> >> Ignorant: How do I find out what each of the connection leads of a >> >> 10F200 does? Do these things have a standard name? >> > >> > The proper answer would be RTFM of course. >> >> I didn't see a smiley, so I'll have to assume you really meant that. In >> that case I strongly disagree. >> >> This guy clearly knows very little about PIC, ICs, and electronics in >> general. He is asking a reasonable question within his own context. He >> is >> asking how to find information instead of demanding it on a silver >> platter. >> He has done nothing wrong and shouldn't be treated as such. >> >> My answer, depending on the amount of time and inclination I had at the >> particular instance, would be to introduce the concept of a datasheet, >> explain where to find Microchip datasheets, "pins" and "pinout", and >> probably also a warning that he should start at the shallow end of the >> pool >> with basic electronics first. >> >> However in no case should a particular answer be legislated in or out. = If >> you answered RTFM to this guy, you'd get jumped on plenty by others and >> things would take care of themselves if only the admins have the restrai= nt >> to not try to "fix" anything. If he gets rude as a result of your RTFM >> ("F--- off a------"), then that's a separate issue and should be dealt >> with >> as such. He'd get jumped on plenty for that too, with admin action again >> only making things worse unless he does it repeatedly. >> >> >> ******************************************************************** >> Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products >> (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > I am new so if you tell me to rtfm please tell me which manual and what > part of it`because that helps a random rtfm indicates you have no clue > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- = Sent from my mobile device int main() { char *a,*s,*q; printf(s=3D"int main() { char *a,*s,*q; printf(s=3D%s%s%s, q=3D%s%s%s%s,s,q,q,a=3D%s%s%s%s,q,q,q,a,a,q); }", q=3D"\"",s,q,q,a=3D"\\",q,q,q,a,a,q); } -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist