Kari Laine, Brazil it's wonderful! :) I agree with you. Microchip, Freescale and other should be selling silicon and giving free good compilers. To make easy the development of projects. I really want to use the AVR family because of gcc, but the packaging of the chip is not good for me. The pins it's realy small. Hey Cristian, what do you want to say with : Free as in beer ... Thanks!! Lucas > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist