I'm sure it's been asked (and answered before), but I cannot come up with the right search terms or whether what we're trying to do, is even possible. Imagine that you have a metal clip that clips to the edge of a PCB. Since it's metal, it connects both pads (top and bottom), so there is no need to connect the two pads on the PCB: they are guaranteed to be one signal when the clip is installed. So, how do you create a device for this clip? You can give the same name to multiple pins (GND@1, GND@2, etc) but what if you have two pads, but want the symbol to only show one pin? And, you need EAGLE to know that once you connect a signal to the top pad, the bottom pad gets connected automatically? Are there devices in the standard library, that exhibit this behavior? Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist