> even with that small amount of current, Joe? The internal diodes vs external Schottkys has been discussed in depth before but I honestly can't remember the figures. Personally I just don't like the risk. Another problem I've encountered once was noise caused by machinery that got through to Vss. I didn't investigate but perhaps Vss rose relative to the inputs. Schottkys did prevent any more PICs burning out > Been using dimmers with a 1Mohm straight to a 16F pin for zero- > crossing - nothing else. makes some 400uA... working for years The waveform is centred about Vss ? The internal pull-ups have around 400uA pulling power, maybe yours is a safe current like that -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist