On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:07:08PM -0500, Vitaliy wrote:
> Byron Jeff wrote:
> > I reiterate my suggestion for change:
> >
> > 1. All longstanding contributors (one year or more) are released from
> > moderation permanently.
> >
> > 2. New list members are subject are subject to moderation so they can
> > understand the culture of this list.
> >
> > Simple. Effective.
> 
> Unfair.
> 
> What do you see wrong with Olin's proposition that an offense be punished 
> *after* it's committed, in full public view, for a defined period of time?

Subject to moderation isn't automatic moderation. It means that if a
newcomer goes postal on the list, then they are moderated.

In each and every one of the previous blowups, the offended newcomer always
pitched a fit that starts the flamewar.

The mods solution is to prevent any non PC language from triggering such a
response instead of saying to a newcomer "Dude, grow up and come back in a
week after you've calmed down."

We're having this discussion as if Olin antagonizes everyone on a daily
basis. Any longtime list member knows this is not the case. The vast
majority of his content is insightful and helpful. When warranted some
plain language may be used. The opposite argument is that warranted or not
plain language should never be used. Either be nice or be quiet even when
someone is offending you.

That I believe is what is unfair. 

I agree with the off the list for a predetermined amount of time if someone
pitches an F-bomb E-mail fit. Works for me.

But perpetual moderation for long past events? Not so much.

BAJ
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