Russell McMahon wrote: > It may be that my opposite approach to Herberts - one of grosspublic > discussion - something like data dump / chain of consciousness / ... > has masked the fact that I have addressed the key elements of your > questions. Or think I have :-). You have commented. But like Herbert, you've also made it clear it's not the official gospel (his words). > You expound at length on your positionm and then provide a "solution" > which is utterly contrary in its effect to the motive for you being on > moderation. Hmm. I don't see it that way, but I respect your view of it to be genuine. > ie as long as you not only think it is appropriate to > abuse and hound newcomers You keep talking about newcomers. I've only said that *anyone* needs to show some respect when asking 2000 people for a favor. My only distinction is that newcomers haven't been around and contributed and therefore haven't earned any slack yet. > to the list but insist that you need to be > taken off moderation so you can do so, Actually I insist I be taken off moderation because it's just plain wrong. I also object to how I was put on moderation, which was "just because" even though there was nothing specific I was blamed for doing nor any rule I was supposed to have broken. That and the fact that it's been many months, including several months of near silence from me. So even if I say nothing at all, the punishment persists. When I try to get the situation changed, I'm blamed for stirring things up. Can't you see the catch-22 here? ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist