:: I have a friend that bends the tip of all the pins and :::::: jumpers on the bottom side of the boards, but he :::::: does this because his products are used in :::::: motorcycles that have too much vibration. IP610 states that this is a no no, especially in class 3 medical style devices. Components that are intended for vibration environments, then the the components are mounted above the board with the leads curled as in military spec. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 3/6/2010 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist