On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 12:23 -0500, Olin Lathrop wrote:
> Herbert Graf wrote:
> > Wah, wah, wah, if you don't like it, leave.
> 
> This is exactly the kind of dictatorial refusing to even discuss things
> attitude I'm talking about.  

Again, wah.

> That's bad enough, but your childish taunting
> is out of line and unbcoming of a admin.  If I had said something like that
> you would have put me on moderation.

I disagree. I didn't belittle you, I didn't deride you, I simply pointed
out that you are whining. That isn't childish taunting, it's pointing
out behaviour that some may consider childish, but I don't. Everybody
whines (from Prime Ministers and Doctors to people in a DMV line),
there's nothing childish about it. 

I do however make an effort to point out when someone is whining about
something.

>   Exempting yourself from your own rules
> is a abuse of power.  Frankly Herbert, you don't belong in that position and
> should step down.

Hehe, Olin, you are a master, I'll give you that.

> >> Herbert did bring up some logistical points, but never responded to
> >> the answers.
> >
> > I didn't respond because I didn't have time, that a good enough
> > reason?
> 
> No, not really in your case since you chose to be a admin and considering
> its been well over a week.  This is your job.  If you can't stand the heat,
> get out of the kitchen.

Hehe, now Olin really has it out for me, I guess I made the rookie
mistake of giving him another target, so be it.

Olin, to be clear, I'm not paid to do this job, it is a hobby, if my
professional work consumes my time then it will receive priority (you
are no doubt exactly the same).

Everyone here knows that there are times when you're just to busy to do
something. This is the real world Olin, and your "complaint" isn't
anywhere near my top priority.

Also, I make it a practice that if I haven't had a chance to respond to
a post within a certain set time I don't respond. It's the "missed call"
effect, if it's important enough they'll phone back.

> You brought up what I thought were legitimate logistical concerns.  Both
> Vitaliy and I tried to address them.  You didn't come back with "No, because
> ..." or "OK, I agree...".  You just evaporated.  Nobody was yelling and
> screaming or name calling.  These were polite technical posts.

Olin, WHY are you making me repeat myself? I didn't have time to
respond, deal with it.

> I suspect the real reason you didn't respond is because the arguments no
> longer supported the outcome you wished.

Frankly I don't even remember reading the post, because of earlier
agreements I don't read every post dealing with you.

> > Since I'm just one admin my post should not be taken as gospel,
> 
> OK, so how does one get the gospel?  It's been 9 days since I asked specific
> questions of the admins.

There is no protocol, there is no drive on our side. You haven't opened
anything new, therefore you can consider the old gospel still relevant,
which Bob stated quite clearly:

Until you are willing to admit that some change is necessary from your
side, the status quo remains. If you don't like it, leave. If you pledge
to change your behaviour, i.e. to ensure that your responses to those
you consider "morons" doesn't inflame, we'll THEN have a discussion.

Why do you expect everybody else to change when you don't?



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