On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Olin Lathrop <olin_piclist@embedinc.com> wr=
ote:
> For someone who was so annoyed that list policy was being discussed that =
he
> had to belittle the effort, you sure have a lot to say.

While I belittle the effort, I don't see any reason to stand around
while you publicly badger the admins.  That's what I've done in the
past, and the results have been less than optimal.

> M. Adam Davis wrote:
>> The admins are not full time. =A0You are not guaranteed any time frame
>> for when your messages will be approved - you may have to wait as long
>> as 72 hours, and under some circumstances even longer. =A0This is a
>> consequence of moderation.
>
> Exactly. =A0This is yet another reason why moderation is bad.

Actually, this is yet another reason why moderation is GOOD.  If it
was instantaneous, then no one would have any reason to try to get off
moderation - they would just be using the admins as personal
secretaries.

The fact that you're complaining about it shows that this has some
effect.  Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be a strong enough reason to
compel you to change your behavior.

Since it's long been obvious that no punishment will ever compel you
to change or leave, we're stuck with this horrible, terrible, no good,
very bad compromise called moderation.

> Not only is censorship just plain wrong

Oh, are you pretending this is censorship again?  You love that old
hobby horse, don't you.

> but the logistics also make things unnecessarily difficult.

Worst of all for the admins who I'm sure would love to not have to
moderate anyone.  Unfortunately there are those who refuse to change.

Such is life.

Please.  Engage me.  I've got over a decade of list archives, and I'm
ready and raring to go.  I'll dig into history, share your more
interesting contributions with the list, show a pattern of
brow-beating and abuse towards members of the list and especially
administrators.

Chronicle your entire piclist existence and demonstrate forcefully
that you are not an asset.

I don't contribute much to the piclist, but I've stuck around since
the time Jory was an active admin, and while the list has successfully
shed other trolls and impossible people, it has yet been unsuccessful
in ridding itself of you.

You, however, have directly or indirectly driven many good
contributors and admins away, and will undoubtedly continue to do so
indefinitely.

You've proven beyond any doubt that you _will not_ change, and you
_will_ keep stirring things up.

Despite your great technical contributions, engineering skill, and
capability, I'm forced to conclude:

You are not a net positive asset to this list.

So.

Please continue to whine and complain about the injustice of
moderation and the ambiguous nature of list policy if you would like
me to engage in this endeavor.  I honestly don't have the time to
devote to it, but the piclist is worth the special effort it would
require.

-Adam

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