Isaac Marino Bavaresco wrote: "I have a friend that bends the tip of all the pins and jumpers on the bottom side of the boards, but he does this because his products are used in motorcycles that have too much vibration." We used to bend the leads on our boards simply to hold the component in place until it is soldered in. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist