Bump.

This was posted over a week ago.  I don't think it's unreasonable to expect
some answer or at least a dialog from those in charge within that time.

Another problem with moderation that was only lightly mentioned is the time
lag between sending a message and when it gets distributed by the server.
This is usually a few hours, but can has been over a day in number of times.
That has a severe detremental impact on the conversation flow.

Then message also disappear completely for no apparent reason.  I sent a few
messages last Friday morning, none of which were posted to the list.  These
were simple replies to other people with nothing even the PC types would
find objectionable.  There was no bounce from the list server, no message
from a moderator, nothing.  Yes I checked the archives to make sure the
problem wasn't my receiving them from the server when they were posted to
the list.


Anyway, from Wednesday last week:

Russell McMahon wrote:
> That option is, of course, logically available to anyone who wishes to
> avail themselves of it.
>
> Any time they are placed under moderation they can refrain from
> posting at all until the moderation is removed. Few are liable to have
> the ability to self manage themselves under this arrangement, but the
> option is there.

Oh c'mon now Russell, surely you see how that doesn't address any of the
objections to moderation.  You're basically saying "if you don't like
moderation, then leave the list", which is a slap in the face especially in
the context of trying to have a reasoned discussion about list policy.

Unfortunately when people start saying "screw you", especially people in
power, the prospect for any remaining reasonable discussion vanishes.  So
it's time to see what, if anything, is going to happen.  Admins,

1 - How, if at all, will list policy be changed?

2 - When am I going to get off moderation?  I've been on moderation for 8
months.  This was done out of the blue.  No particular incident was cited
nor was there mention of any rule I was supposed to have broken.  For 5
months or so I took it and kept on as usual giving you guys the benefit of
the doubt.  I have been held guilty of causing others with their own free
will to possibly say bad things, even though I hadn't said any bad things
myself.  Eventually my patience ran out and for the last 3 months I have
refrained from adding value to the PIClist.  If this is going to continue,
then I might as well unsubscribe completely.  I'm not saying that as a
threat or ultimatum, just a fact that under these conditions the PIClist
isn't worth it for me anymore.  I am trying to appeal to your sense of
justice and fairness.


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