Well, sounds like to me, since this is an industrial product, that the best= way to do this is a negative buck regulator. Just have to find room for i= t someplace. Thanks for all the replies --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Michael Rigby-Jones w= rote: > From: Michael Rigby-Jones > Subject: RE: [EE] poor mans negative rail generation > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 10:17 AM > = > = > > -----Original Message----- > > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] > On > Behalf > > Of alan smith > > Sent: 26 February 2010 15:47 > > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > > Subject: [EE] poor mans negative rail generation > > = > > OK, so I have a part that requires a +/-12V on it, and > I do have +24V > > available.=A0 So, a poor mans method would be to > use a voltage divider > and > > generate a +/- 12V and use the centertap for the > ground reference. > The > > 'ground' or virtual ground, would be completely > isolated from the rest > of > > the circuit of course.=A0 The kicker is that there > are digital signals > (SPI), > > referenced back to the board ground, and the part > requires a digital > 3.3V > > for this interface (actually can be 5V).=A0 I could > generate a local 5V > from > > the +12, referenced to the virtual ground again but > the only way I can > see > > to get the SPI is to optically/transformer couple it > into this > section.=A0 I > > believe ADI makes a part that can do this, and its not > the fact that > its > > another part, its also room on the board for another > part. > > = > > Short of this idea, what other methods to generate a > split supply from > the > > +24V ?=A0 I have very little room for much of > anything, so it has to be > > small and pretty sure not enough room for a negative > buck switcher > unless > > very tiny.=A0 Total current isnt going to exceed > 1A > = > You need to make absolutely sure that there will be no > significant > digital currents introduced into your virtual ground as any > SPI noise on > this will come straight out of the device as a voltage or > current.=A0 = > = > You may be able to use current mirrors to do the voltage > translation; > they are often very handy for this kind of thing IME. > = > Mike = > = > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to > only. The > information contained in it may be confidential and/or > protected by > law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, > you must > not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to > any > person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you > have > received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any > use, > forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly > prohibited. > No part of this message can be considered a request for > goods or > services. > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > = > -- = > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > = = -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist