BOB wrote: > The hosting services should put safe guards in place to be sure they > can > pass the identity of the up loader on to the law if they upload > something like this. Simple Google gives the identity of the up > loader > over to the law and they are in the clear. All the forums I have > signed > up for do some kind of a check on people before they let them post > messages. Why is someone as big as Google to lazy to do it? Do you really know they didn't? I'd be really amazed if Google didn't log the IP address it came from at the very least. They supposedly "cooperated with Italian law enforcement", so they obviously had some information and it appears they did hand it over. You are asking for a system that is too complicated and therefore either expensive or unworkable. I'd rather continue to have access to free or relatively inexpensive services like Google and understand that occasionally something will get thru, as long as it is dealt with when it is brought to the attention of the provider and there is some basic tracking for a reasonable chance to identify the perpetrators. I'd strongly object to a system where you'd have to give (and somehow verify) your drivers license number, social security number, credit cards, fingerprint, DNA profile, etc. What you should really be outraged about is the number of people who viewed the video during the 2 month it was up and didn't report it. Apparently the system worked correctly once the offense was reported. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist