>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:14 PM, sergio masci wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Olin Lathrop wrote:
>
>> Gaston Gagnon wrote:
>>> Help should be offered graciously or not at all.
>>
>> If you really believe that, then you'd better stay out of design  
>> reviews,
>> especially when your design is being reviewed.
>>
>> If you just withold any comment to a demanding ingrate on the list,  
>> then
>> they won't know their attitude prevented getting more responses.   
>> This is
>> especially true since there always seem to be a few people here  
>> that can't
>> help showing off they know the answer instead of restraining  
>> themselves to
>> make the list a better place long term for all.  The OP may never  
>> know
>> better responses could have been had.  By telling the OP that he's  
>> perceived
>> as a jerk and why is actually doing him a favor, although he may  
>> not think
>> that in the short term.
>
> Olin, you are not doing anybody here any favours, not even yourself.
>
> One doesn't need to be emotional when one is imparting information.
> Information IS information. It's value is not improved by pointing  
> out how
> stupid the student is or how superior the teacher is.
>
> You seem to feel that you have been singled out by the list admins.  
> That
> your behaviour is reasonable. You can easily put this to the test.  
> Simply
> join the list using a pseudonym and refrain from using your real  
> name or
> company details. Then continue to behave as you always have and see  
> how
> long you are allowed to stay on the list. I suspect you will be  
> shown far
> less leniancy under your alias than you have been already as 'Olin'.
>
> Why do you continue to pursue the piclist? I mean if you feel so  
> hard done
> by by the admins, surely you would be far better off dumpping us and
> setting up your own mailing list or forum where you have absolute  
> control.
>
>> From what you say, I get the impression you are angry that people  
>> who do
> not know or care about what they are doing or produce should be  
> profiting
> from your experience and hard work. I understand exactly how you  
> feel. But
> there is no room for that here. This list is full of different people
> ranging greatly in experience and ability. If this list were open  
> only to
> professionals who make their money solely on electronic components  
> that
> they design and sell, then I would agree with your position 100%.  
> I'd be
> standing beside you with a pitchfork in my hand :-) But it is not.  
> It has
> a huge base of non-contributing members who are just onlookers,  
> trying to
> learn. Once in a while one of these people starts to feel comfortable
> enough to stick his head above ground and ask a question. If you  
> shoot him
> down in flames it doesn't help the rest. It makes them feel more  
> nervous
> and scared of asking for help. So they go and buy books (some of them
> really really awful) or try learning from the web AND they sometimes  
> end
> up getting even more confused because their source of information is
> wrong! Have a look on the web for simple circuits with LEDs in them
> sometime. You'll be amazed how many circuit diagrams have the LEDs  
> shown
> the wrong way around!
>
> I'm not going to ramble on about how I think you should behave.  
> Instead I
> suggest that you consider who it is that forms the bulk of the  
> subscribers
> to this list and what is it that this majority wants.

Majority rule is mob rule.  I hardly ever agree with the majority.   
Majority
rule is very seductive yet largely ineffective at producing yummy  
results.
Gus


> If you want a
> professional no nonsence no newbe list then go set one up. I and many
> others on this list will probably join. But I suspect the majority  
> will be
> happy with the way things are.
>
> Friendly Regards
> Sergio Masci
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