On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 13:10 -0700, Vitaliy wrote: > Olin Lathrop wrote: > > Let's get a grip on reality, folks. Here's a heretical thought: How about > > people are punished for crimes they *actually commit*, not what they are > > believed to possibly cause others with their own free will to commit. > > I can't help but agree with Olin. Ban*, don't moderate. All this theoretical talk is interesting, but let's step back a sec and consider a practical issue: how do you "ban" a person? Anybody can join this list, under any email address, under any name. How would a ban (or suspension as you are suggesting) work? How would YOU implement a ban? The same can of course be said for moderation. The difference is moderation hurts a persons ego far less then a ban, meaning fewer "retribution" acts. Sure, we could restrict list membership, but that increases the work load on us admins. It also wouldn't really solve anything since how would WE determine that a new arrival is a banned individual? The answer is you can't. The fact is moderation, as distasteful as it is, works. The list has run FAR smoother in the "time of moderation" then it did before. People may not prefer the solution, but I haven't heard of any other workable solution that has the potential of being more effective. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist