Xiaofan Chen wrote: > Looks good. But I have never used your product and do not know > how good it is. I am speaking from my own experiences. PM3 > has also other advantages like more chip supports, memory > card, support by Microchip, integrated into MPLAB, etc. True, it depends on what you need and what your priorities are. However, at less than 1/10 the cost of a PM3, a USBProg can be the right answer for your production line in a good many cases. > BTW, IMHO the box of USBProg 2 looks not very professional. But > it is just my personal perception... It's a Unibox #128 with custom cutouts and text silkscreened on top. Unibox does the customizing for a reasonable extra fee when we buy them in lots of 250. These things are rugged little boxes. We haven't had any reports of a box breaking or a programmer dying in the field, so I think they are doing their job. What would you suggest while still keeping the price reasonable? The current box adds about $10/unit to a build of 250. Keep in mind that the volumes aren't high enough to afford a full custom mold, so it has to be something available off the shelf that the manufacturer is willing to customize at our low volume. Is it that you don't like the basic box, or the plain text graphics, or what? The footprint of the Unibox 128 is just about right, although it's a bit taller than it really needs to be. If the box were really snazzy, would that make you buy one, or N? Or conversely, at what price would you buy a current USBProg2? At what price would you buy one in a really nice looking box? ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist