Olin Lathrop wrote: >> A similar, possibly cliche, quote is, "Make sure everyone you talk to >> is better off for having talked to you." > > But back here in the real world, this is bad advice as a blanket > statement. > Once you've decided part of the solution is to get the moron fired, you > clearly want him not to be better off after you talk. Woa! :-O You want to punish the guy AFTER he's been fired. Why? I've had to fire a number of people over the years, and though the last time I had to fire someone it wasn't any easier than the first time, I learned that there is a right and a wrong way to do it. The right way means the person shakes your hand, and walks away with their dignity intact. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist