Olin Lathrop wrote: >> Help should be offered graciously or not at all. > > If you really believe that, then you'd better stay out of design reviews, > especially when your design is being reviewed. This doesn't make any sense. I conduct or sit in on design reviews all the time. Sometimes the debates become heated, but nobody ever gets called a moron. You make it sound like you make your engineers' life hell. I have a hard time believing that in Real Life you let yourself insult or publicly embarrass people you work with. > If you just withold any comment to a demanding ingrate on the list, then > they won't know their attitude prevented getting more responses. This is > especially true since there always seem to be a few people here that can't > help showing off they know the answer instead of restraining themselves to > make the list a better place long term for all. The OP may never know > better responses could have been had. You can tell him offlist. > By telling the OP that he's perceived > as a jerk and why is actually doing him a favor, although he may not think > that in the short term. I don't buy this "they'll thank me later" logic. There are plenty of people on this list who still, years after the fact, resent how you treated them or a fellow member. Stop kidding yourself: you don't do it for the benefit of the offender, or for the betterment of the community, but only for your own enjoyment. Bottom line: I am strongly in favor of your proposal. When you insult someone, admins ban you for X days and make a public announcement to the effect. Second offense, X + N days, etc. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist