I use Java on NetBeans vanilla. It really sucks. Example, when I highlight a variable it SHOULD highlight all the variables of the same name in the same scope BUT it can forget to do so when it is busy with scanning through the projects. The worst is debugging with Java. It can at times stop debugging or hangs the application itself. I have to check NetBeans out for AVR. I forgot about that implementation. Just hope they got it right on that platform. I am not sure about Eclipse with MCU implementation. Haven't tried all these varieties..... John --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Xiaofan Chen wrote: > From: Xiaofan Chen > Subject: Re: [PIC] ICD3 vs PICKit 3, PIC18 Explorer demo board > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 10:04 AM > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM, > John Chung > wrote: > > It is not the Java (writes everything) but the > reliability!!!!! NetBean sinks.... > > > > How bad it is? Is it standard NetBean from Sun or some > modified version? > > I do not have experiences with NetBean. But for Eclipse, it > seems to > be much better over the years. I tried to use Google's > Android IDE > and it is not bad (my youngest brother wrote an Android > Application > and I was trying it on the emulator -- I am not into > smartphone > myself even though I used to be a PDA fan). > > But for vendors IDE based on Eclipse, it can be bad since > they > need to write plugins to interface with the vendor > toolchain and > their hardware/software components (simulator, programming > and debugging tools, etc). That can drag the whole thing > down. > > I tried to use Eclipse with OpenOCD for ARM testing, so > far > I like IAR EWARM with J-Link far better than > Eclipse/GCC/OpenOCD > (with J-Link or FTDI based debugger). The hardware > debugging plugin > is still tricky to setup even though Eclipse works nicely > with GCC-ARM. > > It is said that using NetBeans with AVR is as easy as > 1-2-3. ;-) > http://www.ethernut.de/nutwiki/Developing_for_AVR_with_NetBeans%3F_Easy_as_1-2-3! > Let's see how Microchip can do with PICs. ;-) > > -- > Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist