Newark has 'em in a bunch of flavors, no "plain" tho. http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=500003+1001906+5117196&Ntk=gensearch_001&Ntt=7414&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&No=0&getResults=true&appliedparametrics=true&locale=en_US&catalogId=&prevNValues=500003+1001906&filtersHidden=false&appliedHidden=false&originalQueryURL=%2Fjsp%2Fsearch%2Fbrowse.jsp%3FN%3D500003%2B1001906%26Ntk%3Dgensearch_001%26Ntt%3D7414%26Ntx%3Dmode%2Bmatchallpartial%26No%3D0%26getResults%3Dtrue%26appliedparametrics%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_US%26catalogId%3D%26prevNValues%3D500003%2B1001906 *WOW*, heck of an URL. Go to Newark, poke in 7414, click on logic ICs, then select DIP package. 7 flavoer, C, ACT, H, etc. etc. --McD -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist