Hello group. I've been writting my own GAL programmer in my 'spare' time using a pic and I can get it to read the PES fine...[it reads 00 02 48 A1 00 00 00 00] so that should be 40ms pulse with Vpp=14.5 ..but I cant seem to program the little bugger. I was wondering if anyone had access to a programmer.. and would be willing to burn my file into a chip and send it back to me. Would be greatly appriciated. I'd be able to continue with my other project (that needs the GAL in the first place) and can use it to see which part of MY programmer isnt working (the fuse reading or fuse writting sections). Thank you. :pat ~"There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't" -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist