Djula, Thank you very much for your replies. Besides the links, you gave me several new search terms to use. > I hope you find another manufacturer apart from TYCO, please let me know > if you do. Absolutely. > We had to use a rare type of those in a product for a demanding customer > (oil refinery valves, all parts had to be exactly as specified) and the > manufacturer of the valves had to buy a ridiculous amount of pins from > TYCO, the MOQ was 1,000,000 pins or something like that. Would the valve manufacturer be willing to sell a few (maybe even tens of) 1000s of these? Is there anyone else here interested? I think if the order could be split several ways, it would open up more opportunities. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist