> You're kidding, right? A bootloader can be a hell of a lot more secure than > giving direct access to the ICSP interface!! Sure? After ICSP the security fuses can be set as tight as required. With a bootloader there is at the very least code in your chip that can write the code space, often it will read too. And without a tamper-proof housing the ICSP pins are accessible anyway (to a sufficiently motivated foo). -- Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist