This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_019B_01CAA750.899005E0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Did you know that there are people who are still making wax cylinders for > Edison machines? Yes, he has a reproduction plastic cylinder on the machine now with a crystal stylus. Because this will be used so many times he's chosen to remove the stylus and play WAV files. There are hundreds of cylinder mp3 on the web, 100-odd of which we've sweeten up for tone and edited for time. I put him on to http://www.tinfoil.com/ and someone locally who was selling genuine antiques > If I were you, I'd seriously consider non-contact solutions, such as > capacitive sensing. When Bob mentioned using a pulley and string like a radio the image that popped into my head was "tuning" with the pointer and measuring the frequency but that's way OTT > For example, the brass crank could move a brass "pointer" along the > surface of the PCB, almost but not quite touching it. Sensor pads built > into the PCB artwork (sealed underneath the soldermask) would detect > the presence of the pointer at particular locations I've made capacitive proximity sensors like that (attached) but hadn't thought about them in this application. The logic makes a 75kHz signal that changes amplitude via a capacitive divider (made of the bridge capacitances and the human body). It will detect a hand through several centimetres of wood with a big enough pad, say 50mm x 100mm of aluminium foil. 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