Driving down the road in my 09 Camrey, listening about the recall and sales stoppage.. Someplace I heard that they do the accelerator using an encoder..ie..its a fly by wire rather than the mechanical linkage. Anyone know if thats true? Likewise, they must be using some sort of electronic metering of the fuel based on the encoder reading. So, simple fix...if the brake is active, shut off the fuel flow...that would stop the run away acceleration until they figure out the firmware bug thats really doing it. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist