> > interesting. But I would still rather use wide lens :) > > Thanks, > John The thing about using shift and tilt (this works better with a view camera where you also have control of both the lens and film planes) is that you can effectively produce acceptable focus over a larger area without the distortion that can be caused by wide angle lenses. The classic examples are using vertical shift to get all of a tall building in the frame without tilting backward and thus causing keystoning. Another example is having a very long depth of field in a landscape shot where the blades of grass near the camera all the way to the far horizon are in focus, but NOT doing it with just the aperture but instead by a combination of tilt and shift. Indoors, the common example is to put the camera in a corner of the room and by using a combination of horizontal shift and tilt you get dept of focus all across the room without distortion. And yes, I know you can fix keystoning in post (Photoshop) and use HDR type techniques and multiple exposures to create increased depth of field. But by doing the work in-camera, you get the results in a single shot with less post production work required. But the little gizmos like the link describes and commercial versions like the LensBaby it doesn't give you the ability to also move the film plane, only the lens. Rob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist