I need to update the code in that dsPIC that's part of a kit. My trusty old PICStartPlus doesn't support this, but I do have Olin's EasyProg, which can ICSP the 30F - is the 33F similar enough to be programmed with 30F ICSP ? - if no, bugger - if yes, how are the 3 pairs of PGEC and PGED pins treated ? wbr -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist